Element vs Objective2

Recent discussions reminded me that misconceptions also surround Element, such as:

    • ‘Element is an O2+ODAC in a nicer box / Element has an ODAC inside’
      • False: While both are designed for transparency, performance and features differ: 1.5W vs 0.6W output power is substantial.
    • ‘Element clips’
      • False: Of course not! Like any good design, gain is configured to avoid clipping.
    • ‘Element is warm/dark/bright/muddy, V-shaped . . .’
      • False: Element is held to the same standard of transparency as all of our designs.
    • ‘The Element’s DAC uses AKM’s reference schematic’
      • False: Element has zero AKM chips inside. EL DAC is AKM based. Neither are reference designs.

Element is my favorite amp+DAC. I’m listening to it now, and keep another at home. It’s my endgame. We’ve updated the design three times since 2015, and until now, have shied away from drawing comparison. I originally expected that a direct comparison would encourage mixups, as the Objective line has such a deep community history. Turns out, the community compares Element to the older Objective line anyway. Okay, let’s compare. They look like this:

The Element Objective2+ODAC
Headphone Jack 1/4 in 1/8 in (default)
Auto Line Output YES NO
Mute Protection YES NO
Amplifier Output Stage LME49600 NJM4556
Amplifier Gain 1.0/4.7x 1.0/3.3x
PCB Stackup 4 Layers 2 Layers
Max Power @ 32 ohms 1.5 W 0.6 W


Amplifier Performance

AMPLIFIER SPECS The Element Objective2+ODAC
Frequency Response, 20-20kHz +/- 0.1 dB +/- 0.1 dB
THD+N 1kHz, 2VRMS Input 0.0009% 0.0016%
IMD CCIF 19/20kHz 150 Ω 0.0002% 0.0002%
IMD SMPTE 150 Ω 0.0004% 0.0004%
Noise, A-Weighted, 1.0x Max Vol -110 dBu -109 dBu
Crosstalk @ 1kHz, -14dBFS, 150 Ω -86 dB -78 dB
Output Impedance 0.1 Ω 0.54 Ω
Channel Balance +/- 0.56 dB +/- 0.6 dB
Max Power @ 600 ohms 140 mW 88 mW
Max Power @ 32 ohms 1500 mW 613 mW

Benchmarks and screenshots were taken for this article with stated test parameters to ensure fair comparison (some published test parameters differ for Objective2 and Element).

Amplifier Frequency Response, 10-22kHz

Amplifier THD+N, 1VRMS input, 20-20kHz, 32 Ω

Amplifier Noise, A-Weighted, 1.0x Gain @ Max Volume

Amplifier IMD CCIF, 19+20kHz

Amplifier IMD SMPTE

Amplifier Crosstalk @ 1kHz, -14dBFS, 150 Ω

Digital-to-Analog Converter Performance

DAC SPECS The Element Objective2+ODAC
Frequency Response +/- 0.15 dB +/- 0.04 dB
THD+N, 20-20kHz < 0.0031 % < 0.0029 %
Noise, A-Weighted -102 dBu -103 dBu
Dynamic Range (A-Weighted) > 112 dB > 112 dB
Crosstalk @ 1kHz, -10dBFS (RCA) -100 dB -86.4 dB
Sum of Jitter Components @ 11025 Hz -113 dB -112.3 dB
IMD CCIF, -6.03 dBFS, 19/20kHz, 24/96k 0.0011% 0.0015%
IMD SMPTE -2VRMS, 24/96k 0.0012% 0.0015%
Linearity @ -90dBFS -0.02 dB -0.08 dB

The DAC chipset is indeed the same, however, there is no physical ODAC RevB inside of an Element. The two boards were prototyped at similar times, and we happened to release ODAC RevB just before announcing Element. In fact, the prototyping success of Element’s DAC was strong encouragement to produce ODAC RevB with the same chipset.

USB Impedance

Notice that Element is built on a 4-layer PCB, while ODAC uses a 2-layer board. Differential USB signals require a characteristic impedance of 90 ohms, and this spec is only tightly controlled on a 4L board. Ideal USB characteristic impedance improves jitter and increases reliability of USB connections when using long cables (6ft+).

If there’s interest, I’ll also publish a deeper look at each DAC (Element, EL DAC, and ODAC). Feel free to ask questions!

Fixing Objective2’s Power Jack

** We’re moving to a new office on Friday, May 31st. Orders placed after 10am CST tomorrow (5/31) will ship Monday! **

If you’ve assembled NwAvGuy’s Objective2 in the past year, you must have noticed that its power jack is discontinued. Alternatives to Kobiconn 163-7620-E do not fit.

One of many alternative 2.1x5.5mm DC jacks -- Does not fit!Substitute power jack for O2. Does not fit.

NwAvGuy last reached out to us on July 1, 2012 before mysteriously disappearing. Two months earlier, he’d discussed revising the O2 PCB. The discussion is archived for those interested: [expand title=”NwAvGuy Emails”]

From:Northwest AvGuy
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:30 PM
To: John Seaber
Subject: John: O2 Power Jack

Have you found an alternate power jack for the O2, are you modifying jacks to fit, or do have enough of the old ones for now? I’m getting more questions about the discontinued jack and trying to decide what the best solution is.

If I revise the PCB artwork I would fix the jack footprint and move the via under the corner of the gain switch. Are you aware of any other necessary board revisions?

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:57 AM, JDS Labs Inc. wrote:

We source unique parts in large quantities, so we have enough power jacks to last all year.

Kobiconn 163-179PH-EX is close. Dimensions aren’t a perfect match to 163-7620-E, but it should fit existing O2 boards and front plates [Edit: 163-179PH does not fit]. Breaking mechanical compatibility with the original board/plates would be a mess.

No other revisions should be necessary!

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Northwest AvGuy wrote:

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I have a sample of the 179PH already and, as I posted on the O2 Summary comments, two of the tabs are a bit too big. A revised board shouldn’t change form, fit, or function of the assembled board.

Just beware before ordering a large number of PCBs the artwork may be revised so you might want to check in with me first.[/expand]

We believed NwAvGuy would eventually update O2. Now that almost a year has elapsed, we can only hope he’s doing okay.

We’ve spent the past few months seeking substitute power jacks. No success. Jack manufacturer Kycon quoted a custom part, with tooling and minimum order quantity totaling $25k-$100k. Not worth it! The last thing we want to do is violate NwAvGuy’s work by disregarding the O2’s no-derivatives license. We’ll gladly respect any wishes he may have if he’s able to return in the future. Until that time comes, we’ve decided it’s time to proceed with NwAvGuy’s intention of sustaining O2 as a viable DIY project. That means the O2 PCB must accept common power jacks.

NwAvGuy only supplied Gerbers for the O2, which makes the design nearly impossible to modify without re-drawing the schematic and PCB from scratch (definitely unacceptable).

O2 v1.1a PCB Gerbers
Original O2 v1.1a PCB Gerbers

Zooming in on the power jack (J1), you can see that plenty of copper surrounds its 2.3mm holes:

Original O2 v1.1a PCB Close-up

Most power jacks have pin widths of 3.0mm, instead of the small 2.3mm pins used by 163-7620-E. So, we only need to increase hole diameter at J1 by 0.7mm.

NwAvGuy left us with wonderful documentation. You can find this table in the O2 readme, and tool “T8” looks like the drill bit relevant to jack J1:

Tool Hole Size Hole Type Hole Count Plated
T1 28mil (0.7112mm) Round 104
T2 32mil (0.8128mm) Round 44
T3 42mil (1.0668mm) Round 23
T4 53mil (1.3462mm) Round 24
T5 55mil (1.397mm) Round 8
T6 62mil (1.5748mm) Round 12
T7 68mil (1.7272mm) Round 12
T8 91mil (2.3114mm) Round 3
T9 125mil (3.175mm) Round 3
Totals 233

To test this idea, I searched the drill file for “T8”. The first instance occurs at line 13, where this table is defined explicitly in Gcode:


Tool names gain a prefix of ‘0’ throughout the rest of the drill file, and T08 appears with three coordinates on lines 250-253:


To confirm that T8 is the appropriate drill bit for the DC jack, I set T8 to an arbitrarily large size on line 13 and checked the visible result:

Changed drill size in NC Drill file to use arbitrarily large holes
Arbitrarily large T8 drill size confirms T8 is only related to O2’s DC jack

This test proved that T8 only affects holes at the DC jack. Thus, I changed T8 in the drill file to our desired hole diameter of 120mils (3.05mm). Here’s the visible result, showing successful 3mm, plated holes at the power jack:

O2 v1.1b PCB: Equal to NwAvGuy's v1.1a, with J1 holes enlarged from 2.31mm to 3.05mm
New O2 v1.1b PCB: Equal to NwAvGuy’s v1.1a, with J1 hole sizes increased from 2.31mm to 3.05mm

O2 v1.1b PCB fabricated and confirmed perfect!

CUI PJ-002A power jack (3.0mm pins): Fits new v1.1b PCB
O2 v1.1a in Green, O2 v1.1b in Purple.
Original O2 v1.1a in Green, Modified O2 v1.1b in Purple.


Modified O2 PCBs are Now in Stock. You may also download the v1.1b Gerbers for your own use.


O2 v1.1b is a straightforward manufacturing alteration to the O2 v1.1a circuit board. Specifically, holes of the power jack, J1, have been enlarged to accommodate standard power jacks. All aspects of the Objective2 remain unchanged from NwAvGuy’s work. The PCB layout is identical. Performance is identical. Even the silkscreen still shows “v1.1a” (admittedly confusing). The O2 v1.1b PCB merely allows builders to assemble O2 without encountering frustration from the DC jack.


O2 Boards, c421 Reviewed

It’s time for a few short updates. First, we’re helping out with NwAvGuy’s do-it-yourself O2 project. Bare O2 circuit boards are in stock:

O2 Objective2 PCB, Front

The O2 has created a stir in Head-Fi.org’s do-it-yourself community. After posting one too many “objective” (or possibly stubborn) comments, NwAvGuy found himself banned from the forums. He proceeded to design O2 for maximum benchmark performance to prove his points. It’s large and heavy, so hardly worth consideration as a portable amp, however, O2 so far lives up to its name.

c421: Quality Inspection 2

We hoped quality control of c421 enclosures wouldn’t turn into a saga, but here I am posting a progress update. The second batch of enclosures arrived in much finer condition than the original run. Although better, we also rejected batch #2 due to minor manufacturing scuffs. Dozens of phone calls, e-mails, and meetings later, we’re approximately two weeks away from receiving enclosure batch #3…

Assembled c421's in enclosure batch #2 (sitting atop our office subwoofers).

Therefore, the November 14th ship date may slip. We’d rather ship great products late, than ship ‘okay’ products early. All c421 preorders will be held until the final batch of cases are available. Onto the good news:

  • Anyone who has preordered may request immediate shipment in a batch #2 case; final enclosures will be made available in a few weeks (free + shipping).
  • Samples were sent to professional reviewers last week, and initial feedback of c421 is strong! Customer Tony .G writes:

    “Got the headphone amp and wanted to say that I’m quite happy with my purchase!  Can’t wait to put in some good listening time.  I’ve just given it a limited run and it is quite stellar.”

  • Hexibase of PWK Designs posted a great unboxing:

Welcome, Nick!

JDS Labs is quickly expanding. Nick has joined our team to help with soldering, programming, and new product development.